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    Its 1 modem that works for net and phoneline too. And a Router. Ive tried to set a static IP to my comp before to get some torrents to work but it never worked at all for some reason. And now this, but yet even though it says NAT 3 it seems Im not having noticable trouble [or Im just used to it].
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    Hm. Well if you haven't noticed not being able to connect or hear people then you may not even want to spend your time with the hassle of trying to fix it. But if it bothers you enough that you want to get it set up and squared away, post back with detailed information on your setup. Like this:

    cable > mode > router > computer > wireless > PS3, etc or however you have it set up. Then describe how your settings are on your router or post pics. We can help you out!
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    i must have gotten real lucky, i got my ps3, didnt adjust any settings and got type2 w/ upnp active, and its ran through my linksys wrt54g v8. i had lots of problems getting/keeping my NAT open on my 360s, but i have a new ISP w/ a new modem, so maybe thats working in my favor


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    Well in Warhawk I rarely ever get disconnected [havent even notice] and mostly hear people alright but not always, and in some games I dont. Im not sure if its the game or the nat problem. Would going Nat 2 make voice a lot more clearer and less issues?

    Seems I cant get anyone to join hosted games in Unreal Tournament 3 now, and I cant join my friend's game when he hosts, yet we joined someone else's before.. not sure if this is a nat problem or the game's problem.
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    I don't get it, I even turned on UPnP and DMZ to the PS3 and still no go..

    IP Address: 192.169.1.23 [I've tried 29 as well for the final number too before]
    Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
    Default Router: 192.168.1.1
    Primary DNS: 24.154.1.37
    Secondary DNS: 24.154.1.35

    On the router it says the last numbers of the DNS are differet, 6 and 7. Ive tried those as well.

    Router was upgraded to latest firmware. Still no go.

    Computer I think is on a non-static IP.

    The computer and PS3 is connected to the Router. The net is connected to the router. The modem is a cable modem that is also a cable phone service with its own backup battery supply.

    Setup Page- MTU: Disable, Local DHCP: Enable, Start IP Address: 198.162.1.100, Number of Address: 50, DHCP Address Range .100 - .149
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    Well, there are several issues that could cause what you speaking about. Having a NAT2 will help keep it to a minimum.

    Have you tried doing a DNS look up? Doesn't make sense that your DNS is different than you say vs. the router. Unfortunately, I don't know the commands to do it in Windows; just linux. The connection issues could be a latency issue.

    In most routers, DMZ places the PS3 outside your firewall, so the firewall shouldn't be causing an issue. You may want to check to see if anyone has gotten a NAT2 with your router.
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    huh..?
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    DMZ (demilitarized zone) is set up so that a device can be placed outside the a firewalls protection. The firewall usually cause issues of connectivity, thus is why people have to open ports for devices.

    My firewall, the DMZ is still secured, and I have to open ports to get open NAT/NAT2. That's because mine LAN is setup that if a device is comprised on in the DMZ, the hacker will have a difficult time getting to the devices that are not in the DMZ.
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    I Have done this once and it worked fine. Then i went to my friends and tried to hooked to this other guys wi-fi. so it erased all my settings. So i came back home tried to change it again and now it won't let me i have looked over this walkthourgh and others a million times i can't figure out the problem.
    my set-up is Modem>Router>ps3(lan)
    any ideas??
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    not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but give your ISP a call and make check to see if your modem has any port settings that might be causing connection problems

    i had a lot of problems with my dsl modem, called my isp, found out that the modem i had actually acted as a gateway, once the tech told me how to access its settings, i opened all the ports and all was well


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    Jeff I"m not sure what your problem is there. Are not able to change the settings in the PS3 or not getting a NAT2?
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    Forgot to add that I used to have a NAT 2 but now I do not. And nothing I do fixes anything to get it to NAT 2 again nor to let me host in UT3 now.. ~sighs~
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    I have tried everything that has been mentioned in this thread so far to still get NAT 3. I have no trouble with the 360's NAT which is open.

    My setup is DSL modem to BEFSR41 V4.3 firmware latest update. To PS3, and 360. (everything is wired)

    Set for DHCP (for my vonage which am unable to assign a IP to)
    have all the ports opened mentioned above.

    TCP:80,443,5223
    UDP:3478,3479,3658

    PS3 set to static .115 UPnP disabled.

    I doesnt matter where in the world you are for the NAT? im pretty sure it doesnt just want to make sure

    Any help on this would be appriciated
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    NAT hasn't nothing to do with where you are located. It's about how well your communication is and how many packet losses are occuring.

    Have you tried placing the PS3 in the DMZ of your router? Also, I would try enabling the UPnP in your router. It can help a lot with these issues.

    As for the Vonage not being able to setup a static IP, you would need to get into you gizmo to set the IP, which I'm guess Vonage may not let you. Some VOIP carrier give you limited access for stuff like that. Overall, it's not a big deal unless you need to open ports or but the gizmo into the DMZ and you have to restart your router or something and you end with a new IP on the gizmo.
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    NAT hasn't nothing to do with where you are located. It's about how well your communication is and how many packet losses are occuring.

    Have you tried placing the PS3 in the DMZ of your router? Also, I would try enabling the UPnP in your router. It can help a lot with these issues.

    As for the Vonage not being able to setup a static IP, you would need to get into you gizmo to set the IP, which I'm guess Vonage may not let you. Some VOIP carrier give you limited access for stuff like that. Overall, it's not a big deal unless you need to open ports or but the gizmo into the DMZ and you have to restart your router or something and you end with a new IP on the gizmo.

    I dont really care about the vonage, just b/c im in japan for 5 more months then ill be Cali. I have tried putting the PS3 in DMZ alone, as well as putting it in DMZ while the ports were opened via port forwarding (eventhough i know that DMZ would override the port forwarding) electronics work in mysterious ways. With Vonage you are not able to "get into it at all" so i can set a static IP, thus the reason i have my router set up in DHCP.

    As far as the placing the PS3 in UPnP im not sure how to do that, i know how to enable it on the PS3 but as for the router im pretty much lost in a house of mirrors.


    PS... I know that some VOIP carriers dont allow their customers to access their reciever/modem for their phones...i'm in the military i am incharge of multiple VOIP carriers, as well as international carriers. Pretty much you need something with phones i can help you.
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    DMZ's can be quirky. Not all DMZ are set to put devices out there to the net. I'm using Smoothwall, which the DMZ is just as secured as the non-DMZ area; I had to open ports to get NAT 2 and OPEN.

    Unfortunately, no all routers have UPnP. From what I've seen, to setup UPnP, it's usually in the router's settings, and you just check a box to enable it.

    That kind of blows about the Vonage adapter not letting you set an IP. I'm using VOIP.com and I bought my gizmo, that I had to hack open (an old Sun Rocket), so I get access to everything. I didn't need to setup a static IP, since it works fine as is, so dymanic addressing is one less thing to worry about.
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    i just had to enable the UPnP and now it works, doesnt make sense to me but o well. thank you for everyones help.
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    I've given up, I tried everything, I think my router just sucks or something. I've tried turning on UPnP, DMZ, Static addresses on the ps3 And comp, nothing. But oddly enough I can now host on UT3 again after I put them both on Automatic IP AND Reverted the router to factory Defaults. Yet oddly enough I still have NAT 3.
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    NAT3 just means you getting more information loss then is preferred, so you may experience some issues such as coppy communication or not able to connect to connect to an online game.

    I had a moderate NAT on the 360 and was hosting 14 player vs. games and no issues with lag or communication. Prior to that, I couldn't host more than 2 people or the system would drop the people above two because of firewalls and double NATing.

    And trust me, I know how fustrating it can get. It took me six months to get the 360 wireless adapter to work with my router.
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    well i just fixed my nat type. Along with forwarding all those ports i also had to go into my linksys router and enable UPnP. after I Unplugged both my router and my modem did anther connection test and i had type 2. Hope this helps some one else
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