You think you've been screwed by MS?

[Wondermonkey]

Originally Posted by namehater

no matter what you say, this guy is still an idiot for putting his 'baby' in the hands of others

congrats to this guy for being a dumbshit and making everybody feel sorry for ya

So, when your baby gets sick, you administer the medicine yourself? When your under warranty dishwasher breaks you fix it yourself despite the fact that someone else will fix it for free?

Not everyone can be skilled in every possible trade there is. They also would probably have to take 48 years of trade/college classes like you have just to be able to do everything yourself, never letting you rely on someone else to fix your stuff for you.

Some of us can't do it all man, we just can't!

[Crippler]

Originally Posted by Wondermonkey

When your under warranty dishwasher breaks you fix it yourself despite the fact that someone else will fix it for free?

If it is signed by the Maytag man or Fred Sanford, then yes.

Oh man. There's just some things that you do not place in the hands of 3rd parties if it really means something to you. This is one of those cases because it obviously meant a lot to the kid. Odds were NOT in favor of this dude getting his same 360 back. That should be enough for anyone not to risk it. I was also promised, by a level 2 support manager, I was getting a brand new unit my second run around. Didn't happen. I guess I didn't cry loud enough. No matter how things get spun, the kid is partially at fault for not using common sense here. I could probably poll every gamer here at work if they would have sent an autographed 360 to the repair facility and get a landslide majority of 'No'. It's not rocket science, it's just Murphy's Law.

I bet he then punted his Joe Montana signed football down the street after calling support.

[Desi Cuse]

Excuse me for my stupidity, but what does PR stand for?

[namehater]

i believe he was meaning 'public relations'

[D_Litch]

Having relations in public is never a good idea mind you.

I love how overblown this whole thing is. Most intelligent people would never have sent in the signed Xbox, just to avoid anything like this happening. This guy deserves nothing, maybe an apology, but at this point I think that would be too much. He has bitched and gotten all of the "pissed off" gamers involved, and they are looking for any excuse to jump in on an issue that doesn't directly* effect them at all.

Wondermonkey and all of the other sympathizers, if you had an Xbox with numerous signatures on it that were valuable to you, would you send it to a repair center? I stand by the signed guitar analogy, I wouldn't send my Strat signed by SRV in to a Fender repair center.

*Directly meaning this is hurting anyone else right now. I don't care about the "this effects all of us, what if it happened to you?" arguments. It's not happening to me, I would have never sent it in, I'm not that much of a dumbass.

[Wondermonkey]

Originally Posted by D_Litch

Wondermonkey and all of the other sympathizers, if you had an Xbox with numerous signatures on it that were valuable to you, would you send it to a repair center? I stand by the signed guitar analogy, I wouldn't send my Strat signed by SRV in to a Fender repair center.

Would I as a 31 year old adult? No.

Would I as a 12 year old kid who didn't have the money to buy another one? Absolutely.

But you know what I'd do first? I'd call MS, I'd get a reference number, and then I'd attach a letter to the parcel, because as a 12 year old kid, that's all I can do. And he did that.

You can stand by your signed Strat analogy, but it's not an analogy, so you're not standing by anything. Analogies only exist when the compared values are identical. Yours are not, nor are your variables, and unless you are 12 it's going to be hard for them to be, sans time machine or Big Brad's special car.

While you're trying to go back in time, Crippler can film a PSA for 6th graders about 3rd Party Repair Centers. They can watch it on Movie Tuesday!

[dmiller68]

Originally Posted by Wondermonkey

While you're trying to go back in time, Crippler can film a PSA for 6th graders about 3rd Party Repair Centers. They can watch it on Movie Tuesday!

Monkey you are tooooo funny.

[Causedawg 83]

So do we know how old this kid is now? I thought the age discussion was all speculation.

I would say that if he's making it to all these various gaming conventions, he's probably not 12. However, I don't know that... I'm just speculating.

[MadBryan]

I dunno, I think D Litch's analogy is spot on. As is Cripplers Joe Montana football analogy.

[Causedawg 83]

I'm not gonna comment on whether or not he should have sent it in, but I will say that the pure lack of common sense that went into actually cleaning off autographs and beautifully done pictures is so insane, that there's no way anyone would expect that would happen to them.

Now, on another note... I could see them deciding to give the guy a new 360, and then cleaning the old one off before doing whatever they do with it after that... but that's not what happened. Considering they ensured him they were giving him the same one back, I can't figure on the guy expecting a person with that level of stupidity to be working on his 360. It seems like a person with that level of stupidity should be limited to cleaning the bathroom mirrors, not cleaning/repairing 360's.

For that reason alone, I do agree that Microsoft owes the kid/guy some sort of remediation.

[Causedawg 83]

On another note... I can't imagine an autograph from someone who works for Microsoft or Bungie being valuable... but that's just me.

I do have an Autographed Tim Duncan picture, and obviously something like that would remain in my protection always. If it were an autographed ball signed by Tim Duncan, it would go in a basketball case and never be touched.


If it was THAT valuable to the kid/guy, maybe he should have followed the same logic.
-Oh well... his decision, his loss. Lesson learned I'm sure!

[MadBryan]

I have probably handled 10 exchanges for myself, my little nephews and my mentally little bro-inlaw and have never recieved the one I sent back. Its always been a differant serial. Isn't that the way you all have had it also?