How to get a Type 2 (Open) NAT on your PS3

[Peench]

Aphex - that's weird. So your PS3 is statically set to 192.168.1.102 and you are still getting a Type 3. Do you have DHCP set to on in your router? If so, how many IP addresses will your router give out automatically? There's a chance that if you have it starting at 100 and allow it to give out say 10, that another device/item on your network has grabbed your .102 IP address instead of your PS3.

[fold_em83]

Not sure if I should have started a new thread for this but I'll just post it here since this is the thread for the infamous NAT problem.

I've been trying to get my PS3 to NAT 2 for about a week now and I can't seem to get it. If you're in for a challenge, you're in the right place. Here's my setup. I have Windstream DSL through a Siemens Speedstream 4200 modem/router. I am then connected to a D-Link WBR 1310 wireless router and then finally to my PS3. I have disabled the wireless function on my D-Link router so everything is using a wired connection. I have also disabled DHCP on the D-Link and assigned it a static IP. There is nothing connected into the WAN port on the D-Link router. I have assigned the PS3 a static IP as well. I can connect to the internet with both my computer and my PS3 with my network in its current configuration but I get a NAT 3 connection. I have disabled the firewall within the modem and that doesn't work. I have entered the PS3s IP into the DMZ on the D-Link router and on the Speedstream modem and no luck. I've even tried entering the routers IP into the DMZ on the modem and still nothing. I think the problem is isolated in the modem. My modem shows two connections. A PPPoE connection and 2684(0) 0/35-BRG. My modem also has settings for NAT/NAPT. It is currently set on NAPT only for both connections. I can change it to enable NAT for either or both of the connections but I have to enter a static IP when I do this. If I enable it for the PPPoE connection and enter my PS3s static IP, it works. The problem is that I then lose my internet connection to the computer which doesn't make my wife very happy. If I enable NAT for the 2684(0) 0/35-BRG connection, nothing changes. I still have an internet connection and I still have NAT 3. There is an option for enabling concurrent NAT/NAPT for the PPPoE connection. I think that my answer might be there. In order to do that, it wants a public IP addres and well as a private IP address. I have the private address but I can't figure out what the public address is. I've spoken with my ISP and they gave me three IP addressess but none of them work. I'm fairly certain there has to be a way to make this work from within the modem, I just don't know what it is. I don't fully understand the advanced configuration settings of the modem. I know the problem is not with my D-Link router because even when I connect the PS3 directly to the modem, I still get NAT 3. I'm hoping there is somebody out there who has run into a similar situation that knows more than I do that can solve this annoyance for me.

[lovekeiiy]

Well, it may be just your ISP. Basically, you're loosing too may packets. See, if your ISP has a forum, there may be some people who had issues with PS3 and have an answer.

With your setup, I'm not fully clear with the modem. Do have you have of those router-modem combo things? If so, you'll need to be careful about double NATing. If it is, I would have D-Link as an access point only, meaning, turn off any NATing in the router. Just assign the router an IP outside the DHCP range in the modem; you can do the same thing with the PS3 if need for things such as port pin-holes or DMZ.

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on one's view, I haven't used DSL, so I'm not familiar with how it connects or using PPPoE connections. I have no clue what the other connection is. But you should only be getting one IP from your ISP; I assume you're using a dynamic service and not a static IP (it's usually pretty expensive to get a static IP from your ISP). There's usually two DNS addresses (you may have to look them up. I can't only tell you how in linux).

[Peench]

Oh man, this one sounds tough. I wish I could be sitting in front of the admin panel to poke around in it. But some thoughts:

Does your router have mac cloning? If you can turn off all of the routing capabilities of the modem/router, clone the mac address w/ your wireless router and push all of those duties to the wireless router, you might have better luck having one central location to set policies.

Another idea. Your modem/router probably has only 1 IP external address available and it is being used and pushed to your computer. Since the routing functions are being handled by the modem/router it cannot assign any others out so you have issues. By pushing that single IP address to your router ad then using your router to assign within your internal network, you might have better luck.

These are just shots in the dark but perhaps they might lead to something. Keep us posted on what you're trying and how it is going and hopefully we can get you to NAT 2!

[fold_em83]

Man, you guys rock! Between the help I got here and the help I got on the PS3 boards, I finally have my PS3 running in NAT 2 and I still have a connection at my computer too! I had to bridge the modem and then do my PPPoE connection through my router. I then just set up a static IP for my PS3 that was outside of the DHCP range on my router, put that IP into the DMZ on the router, an suddenly, its a beautiful thing. I suppose I could forward the correct ports instead but its working now and I'm using a wired connection so I'm not too worried about it. I guess its all a matter of learning what the different settings mean and do. Anyway, thanks again!

[Peench]

Glad we could help!

[luke-bulldogs-1]

does anyone no how to do the port triggering through a ASUS router

[qwertyuiop]

For me i get
ip address: succeed
internet connection: succeed
PSN: succed
upnp:availible
NAt Type: failed

i can still play resistance online but cant go on cod4 or battlefield and everything i try it keeps saying failed any one know how to fix this. i did the static ip and dmz with port forwarding crap but it didnt change my NAT. plz help me

[lovekeiiy]

not enough information. Basically, you're loosing too many packets, thus is why your NAT is failing.

[DINKYDOVER123]

hi,
i have tried everything to change from NAT 3 to 2 but nothing has worked. i copied everything done exactly and still doesnt work. my router is a netgear WGR614v7. i also think its got something to do with the modem my router is connected to. my modem is a siemens speedstream4200. i read something about bridge mode but i dont know what it is, it is set at NAPT mode which i dont know what is. also my signal strength is always around 50% on the ps3 considering it's upstairs, could that affect what type NAT it is? PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

[Peench]

Dinky - the signal strength shouldn't matter. For some reason it doesn't sound like the ports are actually being forwarded to the IP address you chose. Did you make sure the IP address you chose in your router for your PS3 isn't already being used by another device on your network? Check there and then post back some additional settings you are using and we'll go from there.

[DINKYDOVER123]

well the ports i forwarded were the ps3 ports. my ps3 has a static ip of 192.168.1.23 like yours. But i just found something out. When i use a cable to connect to the net on my ps3 it still has NAT type 3. I then forwarded the ports on my modem and it went to NAT 1, then the next day i tried it went to NAT 3 again. I know it's because it's isn't static, so that isn't a problem. The problem is my modem is doing all the router's jobs, so when i port forward on my modem it works, but when i hook it up to my router it doesn't. I tried port forwarding on both my modem and router and it still didnt work. Do u sorta understand what i mean? Its really confusing!!!!

[lovekeiiy]

sounds like you may be double NATing. If your modem is doing the routing, you'll need to turn your router into an access point, ie turn off it's routing. You'll need to set your router outside your modem's DHCP zone.

[supercoolguy]

Please help me before I strangle a cat. Or some other small animal.

I have been trying to get my NAT type from 3 to 2 for over 7 hours now. I have wasted my whole day accomplishing nothing but dents in the wall and what appear to be broken knuckles.

So I beg of you to please tell me where I am in the wrong about how I am setting this up. I have researched all day about what I need to do. And have tried everything. I have watched every video on youtube. and read every post of every forum about NAT type 3 to 2 that came up in the first few pages of google. So belive me when I say this I HAVE TRIED.


My router is a linksys BEFSR41 ver. 4, I have a cable internet connection. I have tried enabling and disabling media server connection. I have UPnP enabled.

Here are screenshots. and I haven't touched anything in port triggering or UPnP port forwarding if something needs to be done in those tabs under application and gaming.











and yes I unpluged and repluged in the modem after each retry. So good luck and I pray you can help me. Thanks.

[Peench]

Try turning off uPNP once and see what happens.

Try also disabling DMZ. Mine is off in my settings.

Try also lowering your DHCP given addresses to less than 12. As it is now your router may be giving .12 to another device and that might be messing you up to.

Is your PS3 manually set with all of the right settings? .12, etc.

Also - do you know if your modem is attempting to act as a router? The double routing may be jacking things up.

Keep us posted and hopefully we'll be able to help you through this one and save your walls from more punishment.

[lovekeiiy]

there isn't enough information to really give a good idea about what's going.

I can't tell what you DHCP range is, other than you have 12 slots for it. You really need to make sure you're static IP for the PS3 is outside that range. I maybe try a new IP like 201. Also, what in the world is with the subnet mask? I'm not going to say it's incorrect, but it's usually 255.255.255.0, not 255.255.255.240

[supercoolguy]

im back and will be testing ur suggestions now, also I can manually change it from .240 to .0 (subnet mask) so i will do so and my linksys router is set to obtain IP automatically and there is a dropdown that i can click with options and one of them being static IP should I change this?

changed subnet mask to 255.255.255.0

Tryed with upnp off and dmz on

tryed with dmz off and upnp off

tryed with dmz off and upnp on

tryed with both on.

set ps3 ip to .192.168.1.50

set all ports to .50

set dmz to .50

no idea if modem is attempting to be a router.

DHCP range
192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254


please help. because my wall is looking like it needs to be punished.