How to get a Type 2 (Open) NAT on your PS3

[Peench]

Strange - when you choose port forwarding on your router you get that error? Take me thru the steps you have taken to get to that point so we can figure out where its getting funked up.

[Sir Ireland]

Well i followed all the steps in the guide gave my ps3 a static ip took me a few goes got some things wrong but set it up and could get on psn and all no problem.Then i typed the ip of my modem into google got to a linkys site and forewarded all the ports but when i click apply its as if i didint have my internet switched on because i get a message saying cannot find server.

[Peench]

So you are getting the "cannot find server" on your PC? Or when you are trying to apply the changes?

It sounds like you may have an IP conflict (i.e. your computer and PS3 may be trying to both use the same IP address).

Were you able to save the port forwarding changes in your router's admin panel?

Can you still access the internet on your PS3 and your PC?

[Sir Ireland]

Originally Posted by Peench

So you are getting the "cannot find server" on your PC? Or when you are trying to apply the changes?

It sounds like you may have an IP conflict (i.e. your computer and PS3 may be trying to both use the same IP address).

Were you able to save the port forwarding changes in your router's admin panel?

Can you still access the internet on your PS3 and your PC?

I can still access the internet fine on both and I only get the cannot find server message when I apply the changes the questions I am not sure about.

[Peench]

Hm... So you are getting to your router and trying to make the changes and then it is giving you that error. Strange.

Can you take us through the exact steps you took while trying to make the changes? Don't leave anything out. We'll get this thing figured out for you!

[Christian Hometheater]

Peench,
I think I did everything correct and it still comes out Type 3? I called Linksys and they said I have to put it in Bridge mode. Afther being on the phone with them and bellsouth for about 4 hours I got it bridge mode. Now I keep getting a DNS era? ANy tips on what I might be doing wrong. Should I call Sony would they be any help?

[Peench]

What? They wanted you to put your router in Bridge Mode? That makes no sense.

How do you have your system connected right now?

DLS/Cable to Modem, to router, to PS3? Or wirelessly or...? Map out how you have your system connected and we'll get started helping you out CHT!

[Christian Hometheater]

I have my modem contected to my Linksys WRT54GS router and it conected wirlesslessly to my PS3. Now that I have my modem on Bridge mode I get a DNS era. I called sony and they said I have the wrong ports? They said to use?

TCP
80
443
5223
10070 - 10080

UDP
3478
3479
3658
10070

[Peench]

Strange. Not sure why they had you put your router in bridge mode, that makes no sense at all. Those ports a different only by the 10070. I didn't have those in mine.

I would say put the router back in router mode, then open up those ports, make sure you have your PS3 set with a static IP address that is not going to be taken by another device on your network (high enough that DHCP won't issue it to something else). Save all the settings, then unplug your router for a minute, turn off your PS3, then turn everything back on and see what happens. Let us know.

[Christian Hometheater]

Peench,
Thanks for trying to help but we decided to get rid of the router. I just don't like it and am not cazy for the support from Linksys. I am thinking about getting a D-LINK GAMERLOUNGE WIRELESS 108G GAMING ROUTER. It has gotten pretty good reviews.

[Sir Ireland]

Originally Posted by Peench

Hm... So you are getting to your router and trying to make the changes and then it is giving you that error. Strange.

Can you take us through the exact steps you took while trying to make the changes? Don't leave anything out. We'll get this thing figured out for you!

Well I switched my ps3 on and i also have a laptop I used my laptop so I could use both at the same time I checked my stats noted the IP and all that made a new wireless connection got it wrong a few times but figured it out made my IP end in 5 then i typed my default IP into the address bar typed everything you did except replaced 23 with 5 and did'int enter the xbox ports.

[Peench]

I'm still a bit confused on all of the steps you've taken, but let me see if I have this right. Sounds like you set up a static IP address on your PS3. Did you take the gateway and other information from your router or from the PS3 when it was set up with DHCP?

Also, when you set up the port forwarding on your router, did you save the new settings?

Does your router have a cap on the number of IP addresses it will give out? For example, if it will only give out IP's within the range of .2 - .22, then if you give something a .23, the router won't like that.

One other thing that I noticed with my router was that uPnP funked up stuff. In theory it should be on, but when it was on it didn't allow my ports to actually be open. I ended up having to turn it off. That was when I was setting up my xbox though, I didn't have to change it when I set up my PS3.

Did your laptop grab .5 too perhaps? That might cause a problem.

Double check how many IP addresses your router can give out. Then see how many it actually has given out (there should be an IP table list). Then choose something a little higher (but still within the range that can be given out), for your PS3.

Let me know if that works.

[Sir Ireland]

Originally Posted by Peench

I'm still a bit confused on all of the steps you've taken, but let me see if I have this right. Sounds like you set up a static IP address on your PS3. Did you take the gateway and other information from your router or from the PS3 when it was set up with DHCP?

Also, when you set up the port forwarding on your router, did you save the new settings?

Does your router have a cap on the number of IP addresses it will give out? For example, if it will only give out IP's within the range of .2 - .22, then if you give something a .23, the router won't like that.

One other thing that I noticed with my router was that uPnP funked up stuff. In theory it should be on, but when it was on it didn't allow my ports to actually be open. I ended up having to turn it off. That was when I was setting up my xbox though, I didn't have to change it when I set up my PS3.

Did your laptop grab .5 too perhaps? That might cause a problem.

Double check how many IP addresses your router can give out. Then see how many it actually has given out (there should be an IP table list). Then choose something a little higher (but still within the range that can be given out), for your PS3.

Let me know if that works.

I took all the gateway info from the connection status on the ps3 I would go as high as 85 I believe for the IP I will try 20 and see if that works

[doug20666]

I was trying to get a NAT type 2 but even though I was setting everything correctly it still wouldn't work. The reason I was having issues was because I have an internet telephone service. The modem that the Catv company gave me has an internal router but it only used for the phone service. What I had to do was get the cable company set my router IP in the DMZ of the cable modem router. Once this was done my NAT changed to type 2 because the router setting could now take effect. I hope this helps some one.

[Peench]

Wow Doug, I hadn't even thought of that. Thanks for passing that on. These days with so many different electronic components in the mix it is often hard to narrow down why something isn't working. Thanks for sharing that tip!

[doug20666]

Ever since I got the phone I never thought about the checking my NAT type until I got Warhawk. I was having issues getting into games. All I did was remove the D-Link router from my system. I was still getting NAT type 3. I then looked up my modem's user guide online and discovered it had router functions in it to handle the calls while you're online. I then called the cable company and they helped me out.

[Alex]

will this work with a gateway routier model WGR-200

[doug20666]

First off do you have internet phone service? If you do then it should work. when you place whatever router in the DMZ of your phone service modem it connects the internet directly to your router. In other word it is directly exposed to the internet for all to see. This should not be a problem because most routers have built in firewalls and won't expose you to any malicious activity. You can then set up your router to open the correct ports. If you go to www.portforward.com/ and then look up your router make and model they will give instructions on how to open the correct ports. Hope this helps.

[Ryan2e]

yah.... ive just set up a network... i used to have my xbox plugged directly into my modem, now i have a router and now its given me trouble with nat type 3. so all i do is enable my UPnP? evryting used to work great before i used the router.

[Serren]

I had to open those ports listed above. Also try the DMZ.