Official Word from Sony on 480p Downrezing

[Peench]

Those of you who read THIS THREAD know that reports have been coming in about the PS3 downrezing video signals to 480p when a set cannot accept a 720p signal. Older mits and other TV's with native resolutions of only 480i, 480p and 1080i cannot view 1801i from a PS3 because the PS3 will downrez the signal to 480p.

Well I asked for the official word from Sony and got the following:

A small number of older High Definition television sets found in the United
States only have 1080i inputs for HD signals. Those televisions will
currently only play some PS3 titles at 480p resolution. PS3 games render
images at either 720p or 1080p for High Definition, and you need 720p input
on the TV to play select games that do not support 1080p. This is an
issue on the side of the individual television sets, which do not accept
720p input, so when a game outputs an HD signal only at 720p, these select
TVs have to display the game at 480p instead.

Please don't shoot the messenger.

Please note that the release DOES says that those televisions will "currently" only play some of the PS3 titles at 480p. This leads me to believe that a fix is in the works. I certainly hope so for the sake of people with TV's more than a couple of years old that will not accept a 720p signal.

Wanted to pass on the info as quickly as I could. Not sure if the official word is out there on other sites yet and wanted everyone to know the scoop.

[Frodo 13]

From my research, the main issue for the cause of it was either Sony's Dev kit or from Sony's 'heavy arm' in forcing developers to use only progressive resolutions - for the sake of their 1080P resolution. One developer has spoke openly about this on both matters.

On the area of the dev kit, there is no display setting for an interlaced signal! From what he said, Sony was telling the developers to create their own software fixes when a console was set to 1080i.

He also stated that Sony wanted only 'progessive' resolutions supported.

[Crankbait]

No fear of shooting the messenger. I can buy a whole lot of 360 and Wii games for the grand I would drop on a PS3. It actually makes me feel like my choice is resolved.

Anyhow, Guitar Hero's controller does not work with it, no Trogdor, No PS3.

[Crankbait]

And Peench, thanks man, you rock!

[Peench]

Anytime! I'm always willing to pass on info if I get it.

[NPYYZ]

Originally Posted by Frodo 13

From my research, the main issue for the cause of it was either Sony's Dev kit or from Sony's 'heavy arm' in forcing developers to use only progressive resolutions - for the sake of their 1080P resolution. One developer has spoke openly about this on both matters.

On the area of the dev kit, there is no display setting for an interlaced signal! From what he said, Sony was telling the developers to create their own software fixes when a console was set to 1080i.

He also stated that Sony wanted only 'progessive' resolutions supported.

You wouldn't have a link to a source on this matter would you? I'd like to read about it. I'm considering getting a PS3 after it's been out for a year and would like to get info on this downscaling issue.

[Frodo 13]

NPYYZ,

Sure thing, I found the post from one developer at AVS and someone posted another link from a PS3 forum from a Resistance developer. They both were pointing the fingers at Sony.

Give me a bit to find the exact URL, OK?

[Frodo 13]

Here are some links:

Pay attention to Darknight's comments and also check out his link on that page.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8&page=3&pp=60


This link contains a Resistance developer, 'jstevenson', holding his ground.

It is a very long thread. I couldn't remember exactly what page he explained but you see his response on that page that they intended support 1080i.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...124597&page=33


I hope this helps.

[SpOoNmAn]

In the past week, Sony has said they can fix the issue via an update(why arent you sony fans updating with news!)

Today, the following was said contradicting the earlier reports...

Sony has contacted us to let us know that they may have spoken a bit prematurely. SCEA's Dave Karraker, Sr. Director, Corporate Communications, informed GameDaily BIZ that they currently cannot confirm that this 1080i issue will be resolved via a firmware patch. The official line is now that they are "looking into the issue and haven't stated any actions that will be taken regarding it."

Source

[Frodo 13]

Like Darknight said, it has to be via patch for the current games. Unless Sony lets the developers use the internal scaler.

[SpOoNmAn]

I dont understand how they can FIX something that cant be corrected by software if the hardware isnt there to begin with.

wtf is going on...man what a mess

[Frodo 13]

The Fix is a software patch that will be downloaded onto the user's HD (like the 360 patches) which will have a software renderer/scaler.

Sony told the devs not to use the internal scaler since it is for Blu-ray use.

Remember, you can play a Blu-Ray movie perfectly fine in 1080i. But you can not play a game in 1080i which is weird because they have 1080P option. So their SDK nulls out interlaced signals.

[SpOoNmAn]

I didnt read that before, didnt want to waste precious life minutes looking for it. Thanks for the info.

[KEEZY]

life minutes.

Well that's good news. At least they fixed that easily, as that was a pretty strange problem to have.

[SpOoNmAn]

Did I miss where they fixed it?

[KEEZY]

Yup. They just haven't released the patch, but it exists.

[SpOoNmAn]

You been sippin' some of that shepherd Kutaragi juice again havent you.

[BrewCityUpstart]

...says Bill Gates boyfriend lol