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Old 10-25-2006, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Need a Projector for my office

Alright, one of my partners (who would prefer we all work on typrwriters and is pissed that we're not all still using DOS) decided that its time we start giving presentations using powerpoint. Kinda funny coming from him but oh well. So my task is to find a nice, portable projector that can be used for these presentations... and of course can be taken home and used by me for gaming when its not at the office.

Any ideas or suggestions?
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know that Infocus made some pretty good 'business' projectors that were comparable to their 'home theater' projectors. Not exactly sure what models they are but, I've heard a bunch of people on AVS and such saying that they used those because their budget allowed for those instead of something say than like a 4805 or something!

or just go for a Sony Ruby! Or it's little brother Sony Pearl!! hahaha only 10k and 5k respectively! But, they are 1080p projectors!!
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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just got this in an email from B&H photo Video Might be woth checking out.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...newsletter.jsp

High Definition on a Low Def Budget
Is the Optoma HD70 the new HD budget king?
By Daniel Canale-Parola
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I just finished taking Optoma�s highly anticipated HD70 high definition video projector for a spin and I'm actively scheming of ways of never having to return it. While the budget unit is understandably short on advanced features (like a true lens shift, or multiple component or HDMI inputs) the little box puts out a stunning 1280 x 720 high definition image. The best part, and the reason that this unit has attracted so much attention, is that the HD70 costs $999; a new record low for a high definition DLP video projector (and B&H has sweetened the pot by offering free shipping).


Setting up the HD70 is just like setting up an HD-ready television; the unit doesn�t have its own receiver and will display whatever you connect to it (keep in mind that projectors are not "cable-ready" so you�ll need a stand-alone box to connect cable TV). For my informal test I hooked up my HD cable box and DVD player, placed the HD70 on a table and fired it up (ceiling mounting is another popular option). The unit comes with a small backlit remote for accessing the menu options (you will stumble around the buttons a bit until you memorize the meaning of the little icons).
Screenshots: actual image is approximately 8 feet measured diagonally.

I ran through a mix of HD content I have recorded to my DVR. A Yankees night game looked fantastic (and I'm a Red Sox fan) - even long shots, like the classic over-the-shoulder shot of the pitcher from center field, retained their crispness. Optoma projectors are known for highly-saturated colors and, true to form, the green field and blue walls of Yankee stadium were extremely rich and vibrant. The unit is so bright (particularly when the HD70 is set to "bright" which boosts lumen output to around 750) that it�s easy to convince yourself you are looking at a 90+ inch plasma TV screen instead of a projected image.


I switched over to Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King ("LOTR:ROTK" in geek speak) and noticed a slight greenish tint to the image — just like TV sets, projectors often need to be adjusted from their out of the box settings. I played with the tint setting until flesh tones looked right (for best results, calibrate your projector using a calibration DVD like Video Essentials or Avia). Once chromatic order was restored to Middle Earth, I was again blown away by the quality of the image. Colors were vibrant, blacks were blacks, not muddled grays, details were generally still present in dark scenes and the overall image quality was very satisfying.

Wanting to see how the projector performed with standard definition content, I fed the HD70 the newly digitally remastered DVD of the Blade Runner Director's cut. The projector did a great job when I used a progressive DVD player but allowed a higher level of "jaggies" and other video noise when I sent it an interlaced 480i signal (possibly due to the lack of a premium onboard video processor like the highly regarding Foroudja). The image it produced when being fed 480p however was excellent — just make sure you use a quality DVD player that can output 480p.

All said, I was extremely impressed with this unit. Sure, you'll get a higher quality image from a high-end 3-chip DLP projector with a fancy-pants lens but, for the money, the HD70 puts out a very pleasing and respectable HD image (and with what you have left over you can buy an HD-DVD player and a nice screen). For my money, the Optoma HD70 has a legitimate claim to the title of "HD budget king".

The Optoma HD70 — the pros and cons

PROS

* Price, price, price — at $999 it's an exceptional value
* Fantastic, huge high definition image (requires high definition source)
* Excellent 16:9 widescreen image with standard DVDs — progressive DVD player recommended
* Very good blacks, contrast and color saturation
* "Image AI" adjusts lamp power according to scene brightness which preserves shadow details
* Small size and white color makes for a low profile when ceiling mounted
* Very quiet operation (much quieter, for example, than the InFocus Screenplay 4805)
* True HDMI (i.e. not DVI) and component inputs


CONS

* Only average image quality when viewing standard 480i definition TV (more expensive projectors have better built-in video processors that improve SD quality)
* Limited high quality video inputs (only 1 HDMI and 1 set of component inputs)
* 8-bit color, instead of the 10-bit of more expensive units (only of concern to serious videophiles who notice these sorts of things)
* Although it�s quite bright, as with most projectors designed for home theater use, you need a light controlled room to enjoy the HD70�s best picture quality

Order an Optoma HD70 now or email me if you have questions about the projector or front projection in general.
Please email feedback on this article, or suggestions for future topics, to emailfeedback@bhphotovideo.com.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wood ghost to the rescue! 720p native for 1,000?!?! Hmmmmmm, now THAT is definitely interesting! That gets Bookmarked for sure. Thanks wood!

and whats with Jon and this 1080p and sony all of a sudden. I thought you were all gung ho about 720p becoming the norm and sticking with that?! 1080p for presentations?! I think Jon should sell me his 360(b4 it dies on him, it wont do that to me) and he can buy sony rubys and ps3s and buy back his psp and.... and I dont know what else

The X2 is popular for presentations and good enough for theater use(infocus) Peenchster.

Hmmm, I think I may try pounce on that Optima! Its 1,200 cheaper than the Infocus I want. The infocus has a nice lens and a kick ass color wheel but for a grand?! DLP 720p native? There goes the excuse to get a LCD thats 720p!

DLP! DLP!!

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Old 10-25-2006, 03:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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DLP! DLP!!

I need sedatives
Watching the rainbow effect on a DLP projector would probably do the same trick.
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Watching the rainbow effect on a DLP projector would probably do the same trick.
Good thing I don't see it Are you one of the 11% that suffers from such a problem?

If I did I'd cry, I think a DLP picture kills everything else other than CRT.
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Old 10-25-2006, 05:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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We just got an Epson for our office that has wireless built in. So no cables required...
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Old 10-25-2006, 05:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Good thing I don't see it Are you one of the 11% that suffers from such a problem?

If I did I'd cry, I think a DLP picture kills everything else other than CRT.
To me it's not bothersome just annoying. Once I see it I can't help but focus on it. I agree that nothing beats the picture of a properly tweaked CRT. I will say that LCD has come lightyears from even a few months ago. The AE900 that I am running now is simply amazing. I never would have thought I could get that quality from an LCD projector in the past.

I really want a RUBY! I had a local B@M (that I have spent stupid money with) offer one to me for 6500 a few months ago and I'm kicking myself for not taking him up on it.
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Old 10-25-2006, 05:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wood... that is an awesome price!
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks to Peench for asking his initial question. Without doing so, Wood Ghost wouldnt have responded and informed us of the Optoma. Ive decided to snag one in the next couple weeks

I found a review pitting the Optoma HD70s bigger and ever so slightly better brother, the HD72, against the Infocus IN76 I was looking at. Here is that review..
InfocusIN76 vs. Optima HD72(starts about 3/4 of the way down)

And a different review of the Optoma HD70 from what Wood posted:
HD70 vs. HD72

Conclusions:
ALL are native 720p DLP

Infocus list is $3,000.00, can be had for $2,300.00
Optoma HD72 List is $3,000.00 and can be had for $2,000.00
Optoma HD72 list is $1,000.00!!!

Optomas warranties are 2 years, Infocus is 1. The IN76 has the best picture but barely edging out the HD72, while the HD72 is barely better than the HD70!

The HD70 it is!! The only glaring difference is the Infocus The IN76 is compatible with the 1080p/24 format while the Optomas are not, but that doesnt concern me one bit. I'll worry about that in a couple or 3 years. For $1,000.00 you can't go wrong! I'll put up a Review of the Optoma(If I'm permitted)

Peench and Wood Ghost get a cookie!

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Old 10-26-2006, 08:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Spoon,

Let me know how that goes because I might follow you up on that one. I have and love the Infocus 4805 but would really like a 720p native projector. For $1000, that's hard to beat and would make it worth my while to sell my 4805 which is in great shape.

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Will do And I didn't know you had a 4805.
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Will do And I didn't know you had a 4805.
Sure you did, you just forgot. I asked your advice on it before buying it summer of '05 and then told you when I bought it Check out my pics in the where do you game at thread.

This HD70 looks like a steal though. I need to pick up a 32" lcd for the living room I'm finishing upstairs and might snag the HD70 as well. It's going to be an expensive couple of months with remodels at the home and christmas presents. I'm trying not to think about all the dang XBOX 360 games I want coming out starting 2 weeks from now.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah I forgot

I'm not talking to you right now, the whole sony rep thing is making me very unpleasant I honestly got nauseas thinking about it.

No from me today!

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awesome! I'll give cory a big anyway!!
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Thanks for all of the info you guys! You guys rule!!

So is it the Optoma HD70 or 72 that I should be buying?
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