For HD-DVD fans only

[MadBryan]

http://www.campaignhd.com/Comment_Fatal_Flaw.html
Please look at this and clink on the links at the bottom of the page. Very informative. As the thread title says this is for HD-DVD supporters and is not meant to start a flame war. If you are a Sony fanboy then don't read. Thank you and good night.

[dmiller68]

Interesting article...

[Frodo 13]

TY for the article.

Viral marketing. hehe.

[Crippler]

I was reading some of the AVS linked content from that article. How is the avg. Joe consumer suppose to figure out all this firmware stuff so they can play movies? Yeah, I know, the mass market consumer isn't buying this hardware yet. But, do you really think it's gonna get much better? I love me a good firmware update. But, all the mass market consumers what to do is place the disc in and watch a movie. Not jump through fiery rings to get it to work. These HD disc formats need to be way more user friendly if they want the WalMart consumer. There too big too. Check out some pics of a open BD or HD DVD player. Tons of wasted space. Make them smaller and thinner.

[Frodo 13]

How long did it take for all the firmware updating to slow down or stop on DVDPs? Didn't really take like two generations? Are we on the second generation of HDDVD and Blu-ray players?

[GoatMother]

Is this for HD-DVD only fans or fans of HD in general who enjoy either format (non-haters)?

[Peench]

I think non-haters will find the article very interesting. It makes some very good points.

[GoatMother]

I was jk anyways

I don't know about that article. It may have some good points but I see tons of cherry picked articles, polls and surverys linked at the bottom as well as some things that were accurate 6 months ago (blu-ray's rough start) but not today. edit: rest of thoughts deleted, don't want to stir the pot

[Peench]

Haha! Not sure how long ago the article was published, but at least he made the effort to look up the stuff that would back up his opinion. It wasn't simply fanboyism (or at least it didn't seem to be IMO). Definitely an interesting take.

[GoatMother]

I'm all for both doing well if it helps drive prices down. Interesting things I read this morning:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6230925.stm

Hybrid answers to DVD format wars

The rival formats have split the film and electronics industry
The first DVD player to play both rival high definition DVD formats has been announced by South Korean firm LG.
The dual-format player will be able to play the Sony-backed Blu-ray discs and the Toshiba-led HD DVD discs

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01...total_hd_disc/

Studio to end Blu-ray, HD DVD war with dual-format disc
By Tony Smith [More by this author]
4th January 2007 11:59 GMT
Movie studio Warner Bros. will next week unveil an optical disc format capable of being played in both HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc (BD) machines, the company has revealed.

Warner hasn't provided details, but the disc, dubbed Total HD, is likely to be based on technology patented back in December 2005 but revealed last September. It's a dual-layer disc, with an HD DVD layer on top of a Blu-ray one

[Frodo 13]

Ugh. Oh no, another format.

Back to the article, it was very informative for me. I liked the research he did. I didn't think it was necessarily a fanboi article. He brings up very good points however.

[BiffCo]

If the dual HD discs can be set at the right price ($25 is currently the norm/starting point for HD movies, bring it down to $20), then they will really take off. Price them at the ridiculous prices of HD-DVD combo discs ($35-$40 for an SD versions I'll NEVER need), and say goodbye to many supporters.

This format war is going to be lengthy and interesting IMO. I currently only have an HD-DVD player, but am anxious to get my hands on a PS3 for the Blu-ray functionality. I support both formats as well. They are both equal in terms of what quality the can produce. Blu-ray happens to have a lot of movies that I would really like to have in HD, as well.

-Brad

[GoatMother]

agreed, $20 for me is perfect for an HD movie. Of course I'd like less. Those $30-40 priced discs are ridiculous.

[Frodo 13]

Are there enough HDTV owners to warrant all these formats? What is the number in the US now? 33 million HDTV owners?

[BiffCo]

I think you are missing the point, Frodo. These "Dual Discs" are not a new format, just a way of presenting two different types of medium on one disc. When dual disc came out for CDs, people didn't go, "Look... Another format?"

I'd prefer to see a really kick-ass HD-DVD/Blu-Ray combo player, keeping the disc prices down (and doing away with combo discs).

-Brad

[GoatMother]

Yeah, I agree Brad. Very curious as to how LG will price their blu-ray/HD-DVD player. If anybody can make it competitive they can.

[Frodo 13]

Originally Posted by Big Brad

I think you are missing the point, Frodo. These "Dual Discs" are not a new format, just a way of presenting two different types of medium on one disc. When dual disc came out for CDs, people didn't go, "Look... Another format?"

I'd prefer to see a really kick-ass HD-DVD/Blu-Ray combo player, keeping the disc prices down (and doing away with combo discs).

-Brad

Not trying to argue with you Brad but the first paragraphs state, "format" thus being a new disc and it still has to be accepted. I called a third format however, it is merely an option to lower costs.

I wasn't much into CDs although my sister and brother in law were since he was part of DJ business in the late 80s/early 90s. So I had no need to buy any vinyl (OK wait, I lied, I have all the Police albums), CDs, and tapes. So I am not well-diversed about the audio CD world.

[BiffCo]

I'm always up for a good debate! I think that matter of opinion goes into play here (what each of use consider a format). It's all good!

-Brad