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Old 12-05-2006   #21 (permalink)
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When you mentioned young MC it clicked. When they showed the MC helmet sitting where they kid was laying, it was subtle but effective in conveying that. This makes me want to read the books even more.
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Okay, apparently Frankie & KP showed up in a IRC chat last night right after the trailer aired, here is the transcript, stolen lovingly from HBO:

Konrad: Frankie, is the so-called Shield Grenade a game element?
Frankie: Nothing in the trailer was placed there by the agency - that is to say, every object and action was put in there with Bungie's consent and usually assets.
Frankie: Which you have t assume we wouldn't do without good reason, riht?

Angel: My question: Are the models of the kids supposed to represent John and Kelly, and if so, is there a specific time frame that they're in, such as during a training op or something?
Frankie: The children at the start are there "for your interpretation."
Frankie: Are they young Spartans? Are they Earth kids from the 20th century? It is a question presented in the ad, not an answer

FG_Infinite_7: Frankie, my Question : why the shot with the hand armor? its brought up enough controversy
Frankie: What do you mean why? It's a 1st person shot of the Chief's hand.
KP: He's referencing the H2 assets in the Valhalla first person shot.
Frankie: Oh
Frankie: That was because KP nubbed up the shot
Frankie: It was because then we didn't have 1st person view armor

Hawaiian_Pig: Is the "bubble" grenade related to forerunner tech in any way?
Frankie: The tech of the Bubble Shield is top secret, ONI-owned

KP: any comment on when [the trailer] takes place?
Frankie: It takes place near or around the events of the E3 trailer
Frankie: When those are, is a spoiler

Ironlion: Who says "Time to go" as Master Chief gets up in the ad?
Frankie: The little girl.
Frankie: A little girl.

masterskill: Group at the end with the wraiths(?); brutes, or some new folk?
Frankie: Brutes
Frankie: One has a hammer
Frankie: Those are Wraiths
Frankie: New Wraiths

PhantomFaux: Are you, Frankie going to star in Halo 3, say as as guest spartan or a marine or some other role in the game?
SG: I assume the commercial is proof that the halo 1 pistol is back. If so, has it undergone any changes to damage, rate of fire, accuracy, ect.?
Frankie: No. Worst question ever. me in game
PhantomFaux: I got mugged today coming home from school.
Frankie: At gunpoint?
PhantomFaux: no
PhantomFaux: they just mugged me
Frankie: then quit being a wussy

Slith: Will the shield grenade be the fourth grenade type we can use in Halo 3 - alongside the frag's, plasma's and spike's?
Frankie: Why does the shield have to be from a grenade? Obviously the object is grenade-like. But who says it's a grenade?

Narcogen: Grenade or not, does the "not indicative of gameplay" caveat apply to the special shield the Chief used in the advertisement-- in other words, is this something we should NOT be expecting to see in gameplay?
Frankie: Not indicative of gameplay means, these images were not captured from the gameplay engine.
Frankie: Anything else is up for interpretation

Konrad: Frankie, WHERE does the trailer take place?
KP: The trailer takes place on earth.

Veegie: What were the high pitches screaming during the time frame transition?
Frankie: The high pitched screaming was a transition to the explosion noise
Frankie: it was artsy

Also, HD Windows Version of the Trailer.
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How fun would Frankie's job be? Getting to tease the world. It's like giving hints to somebody about their christmas present, except you get to do it for 2 years.
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ahhh, a nerd's personal tease!

Man, I just watched that trailer! I am not incredibly excited for Halo 3 in general but, that trailer gave me the chills regardless!!!
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So, who's the girl? Are there any links of her to Cortana?
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So, who's the girl? Are there any links of her to Cortana?
Not to Cortana, but everything there depends on when/where the flashback takes place.

If the young boy is in fact John, then the flashback, to me at least, presumably takes place before he enters the Spartan program. I say this because I doubt they'd have much time to canoodle like that after they began training. This would mean that the girl is just one of his childhood friends. If it does take place after they've entered the training, then my money would be on Kelly.

Personally though, I think it's before John enters the Spartan program, because the contrast between peace and war would be greater that way. The innocence of children gazing up at the sky would be lost a bit if they were already young killing machines.
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Was John ever on Earth before he entered the Spartan program? I thought he was picked up on a different planet? Shoot, I wish I had the books here with me so I could check.

Oh yeah and DANG!! That commercial was AWESOME!
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To our knowledge, never on Earth.

I don't think all of the commercial takes place on Earth though. The real-time action does (it's desert in Africa) but the flashbacks are fair game I think.
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Hm... Alright, I was confused by this statement:

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KP: The trailer takes place on earth.
How awesome. I love the hype.
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I'm confused too, but I don't think they want to tell us what or who the kids are, I think they're totally open to interpretation. Me thinking it's John and one of his friends just feels the best for me. If they were just some random chittlins staring up at the sky I could probably care less about them in relation to the story.

They're definitely not "dressed" in 20th Century garments though, so it's the future at some point I suppose.
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Is 70's garb back in the future?? Sorry wonder, couldn't resist on that one!

I do like that they left it open to interpretation. If they simply spoon fed us everything, then we'd have nothing to chat about here!

I still really liked the commercial! I wanted more action tho!!
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Was John ever on Earth before he entered the Spartan program? I thought he was picked up on a different planet? Shoot, I wish I had the books here with me so I could check.

Oh yeah and DANG!! That commercial was AWESOME!

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Dude, Rhino, you didn't even explain your whole "flashback" theory of John being knocked out in combat and having a mental flashback while unconscious. Perhaps I'm the only one who didn't get that when I watched it?
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I keep re-watching, but I'm confused on one point. Is he near a crashed warthog or a mongoose? When he's reaching for the rifle it's a warthog and when he's crouching with the shield, it's a mongoose. Did it change or are there two crashed vehicles he's beside?
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Two vehicles. Warthog's on its side, Mongoose is on its back.
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Dude, Rhino, you didn't even explain your whole "flashback" theory of John being knocked out in combat and having a mental flashback while unconscious. Perhaps I'm the only one who didn't get that when I watched it?
Thats what I thought also. Its kinda got that Saving Private Ryan feel when Tom Hanks gets knocked down with the distorted sound
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Yes... very interesting. I'm now convinced that it was MC as a kid.
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I was looking on the internets last night and some moron is convinced you can see MC's face in the helmet. The only problem is that the "face" is on the far left side of the visor...........and you're in 1st person. I love idiots on the web
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Here's something I noticed the other night when watching it for a 5th time. When the scene changes from looking at the kids, to the helmet lying on the ground, did you notice which kid's head was on the screen just prior to seeing the helmet in the same position? It was the girl's, right? Not suggesting MC's a girl, especially w/ that deep voice (unless she became a chain smoker early in life), but I do find that fact worth considering. Your thoughts?
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That's what I thought too. Because, facing down from the sky, the boy is on the left, and the girl is on the right. However... it could either mean that a. it was alluding to a female Spartan or b. it was just showing that the boy was, in fact, MC, by showing his first person view, and the helmet just happened to be where the girl was.

How is that for a run-on sentence? I am sure Bungle did that on purpose... just to keep people guessing.
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