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Old 09-23-2008, 09:18 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm thinking S1 is referring to Section 1 of Oni. The Admiral says, “Didn’t think you S1 types ever left your cave.” Isn't Section One based within a mountain?

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Old 09-23-2008, 09:26 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm thinking S1 is referring to Section 1 of Oni. The Admiral says, “Didn’t think you S1 types ever left your cave.” Isn't Section One based within a mountain?
Does ONI ever request anything though? I thought they were like the CIA. I don't know if they were in a mountain or not, you may be thinking of Dr. Evil.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So with all the new unannounced achievements I am wondering if they are doing a new game with in Halo 3. I wonder if they Mythic is a new story within Halo 3 and those levels will also be maps? It just seems odd that MS is letting Bungie add 750 more gamer score. I am sure whatever Mythic is, it will cost $15 or so to get it.

I wish they would just announce what it is already.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:38 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Does ONI ever request anything though? I thought they were like the CIA. I don't know if they were in a mountain or not, you may be thinking of Dr. Evil.
Maybe the SPARTANs are on board in cryo or something.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Maybe the SPARTANs are on board in cryo or something.
Which is why he was saying his men no longer report to Fleet, because he knows they're there and just has to stop the ship from getting blown to bullshit in order to get them? I like the way you think.

What if the Superintendent is just another rampant AI and nothing more?
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm thinking S1 is referring to Section 1 of Oni. The Admiral says, “Didn’t think you S1 types ever left your cave.” Isn't Section One based within a mountain?
I don't know about the cave reference, I think that's just a red herring. But I think you're on to something with the Section One stuff.

According to this timeline, the predecessor to Spartan II wasn't actually called Spartan I (although I guess the units themselves could have been called Spartans). The project was called ORION, so wouldn't military abbreviations use that instead of the unit nick? It could still be the first of the Spartans since ORION was an ONI project.

Good grief I'm geeky. I love this stuff.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:01 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The Super does seem like those AIs in the last book. That first report also lists TOKYO up in the header. I'm gonna say we'll see an announcement at the Tokyo Game Show.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:57 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The Super does seem like those AIs in the last book. That first report also lists TOKYO up in the header. I'm gonna say we'll see an announcement at the Tokyo Game Show.
Nice catch. TGS has always been a favorite for MS announcements, and the October 9th date is literally right around the corner.

Nerdologists also found reference to 9/24 in the picture that accompanied the Rampant AI rant.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:17 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Nerdologists also found reference to 9/24 in the picture that accompanied the Rampant AI rant.
Speaking of, where the heck is Epyon???? Isn't this right up his alley?

"Clearly someone's confused... those aren't Mayan temples! They're Aztec!"

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Old 09-24-2008, 10:07 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Tomorrow, 9/25, 7:07 a.m. PST. Announcement.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Speaking of, where the heck is Epyon???? Isn't this right up his alley?

"Clearly someone's confused... those aren't Mayan temples! They're Aztec!"

Bungie Rocks!
I probably won't have Wondermonkey's love anymore, but Bungie has nuked the fridge when it comes to story. Halo 2 was an embarrasment and Halo 3 was only "serviceable" enough to move the action along. So I'm pretty "cool" when it comes to Bungie's new blitz that feature their trademark oblique references and arcane rumblings, which I have historically loved.

I still think they make games with great gameplay, and I'm definitely interested in what they're making, but I'm off the kool-aid. I hope that with a new game and (hopefully) a new universe, that they'll be able to get back to some good stories that are well told.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I agree with my pookie Epyon about the story. It had all of the potential to be a truly inventive piece of Sci-fi storytelling. But Halo 2 shit on the coats(of originality), and Halo 3 was regrettably forgettable.

I respect Bungie as creators of great ideas, and executing them [for the most part] well enough. A new project from them would have me excited, and I would be lining up to see it. I just would be the only guy in line not wearing Halo-related merch.

Side note, I hope it's a XBLA port on Gnop.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:37 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Halo 1 was never original, but it was extremely well-told. The story is essentially StarCraft: Humans (Terrans & Marines) vs. technologically advanced space fairing race with religious overtones that wield energy weapons and swords (Protoss & Covenant) vs the aggressive parasitic lifeform (Zerg and The Flood). And of course add in the extremely technologically advanced ancient race that created it all (Xel'Naga and The Forerunners), but mysteriously disappeared leaving behind lots of its technology to find. Mix in a healthy dose of Bungie's own Marathon and a few touches of Alien and you get Halo: Combat Evolved. I'm not saying all that to bash Halo 1 (I love you), but to just say I know what it's strengths and weaknesses were.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:14 AM   #35 (permalink)
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It's hard to find original storytelling in science fiction, since the old greats did everything so well, everything's been beat to death.

People thought they had it in Star Wars until they saw The Hidden Fortress.

People thought they had it in Firefly until they watched a few Civil War and WWII serials and realized how cookie cutter it was.

People thought they had it in Mary & Kate Olsen's New York Minute and they were right.

I've always enjoyed the story of Halo (all of it) and thought they did an exceptional job telling it without restricting the player and pushing them through tubes (like Bioshock - which I absolutely love, but it was far from open gameplay). For a FPS, I thought the story was extremely well told, and the universe that Bungie created with this game will live on for a long time.

But, I also can't get enough games about riddling religious fanatics with pink spikes, so my view is also extremely biased.

I'm all in for whatever those fellas have planned.
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