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Old 05-20-2008, 09:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Recording Xbox 360 to PC using the DAZZLE PLATINUM

I bought the Dazzle Platinum and got it to record on my Dell laptop (Inspiron 1720). As mentioned in this thread, I got all the stuff in the video I posted for justintiime.

I'm going to bust out a few things before I get to my overall review of it: cost and some stuff the technically-challenged will find helpful (I'm one of 'em, so I'm saving you some time here).

Cost
Dazzle Platinum: $95.00 (I could've ordered it off the computer for cheaper).
RadioShack Distribution Amplifier: $50.00
Xbox 360 S-video AV Cable: $30.00
S video cable: $12.00
Total cost: $187.00

On a side note, I did find THIS VIDEO that talks about the HAVA, which sounds like a better deal for the price. I already had the RadioShack distribution amplifier and the cables, so I just bought the Dazzle Platinum because it was cheaper for me.

YOU DON'T NEED the Radioshack Distribution Amplifier or the Xbox 360 S-video cable; you can just get three Y-adapters instead for about $4.00 a piece and hook them up to your audio (white & red) and visual (yellow) cables on your Xbox 360 component cable in the back of your tv - but you'll have to switch your 360 component cable from HDTV to TV, but trust me - it is worth it to get the extra stuff if you're gonna go this route because the video quality will be improved big time. The Xbox 360 S video cable, which I finally found at GameStop, wasn't easy to find either - so if you go this route, be aware...

Technical
After I downloaded the software that came with the Dazzle Platinum, I had to go to the Pinnacle Systems site and go through tons of crap to find what I needed to make it work with Windows Vista. First off, you have to know if your Vista is 32- or 64-bit, and you can find this out in your PC's control panel. Mine is 32-bit.

You'll need to download the Studio & Dazzle Hardware Drivers for Vista (Video Creator Platinium (DVC170) is what you'll be looking for), as well as the Instant DVD Recorder 2.0 Release Patch (Vista) and the Studio 10.8.0 Patch (I'm not 100% sure you need the DVD Recorder 2.0 patch, but I did anyway). Once that's done, follow the directions on the video I posted in the other thread.

Review
The settings are pretty confusing at first, but not at all impossible to figure out (if I can do it, anyone can). Just be sure you have the dazzle plugged in to your computer (don't laugh), and you're using the Studio Launcher and not the instant DVD recorder.

I tried to record both with and without the distribution amplifier, and the difference in video quality is as obvious as night and day. There are three steps involved: 'capture, edit, and make movie,' and it's all pretty self-explanatory. Infact, without even checking out the tutorial and just messing around, I was able to fiddle with titles, effects, and a storyboard, then get a video up in under 2 minutes - literally... It's that simple. I know there's higher-quality video sharing sites that are better than youtube - maybe someone else can recommend some. I've downloaded a video I made in literally under two minutes, and once it's finished processing, I'll post it to give you an example of what it looks like.

All in all, it can be a pain to set up IF you don't know what you're looking for; once it's properly set up and you have the downloads, it's super easy (we're talking basic skills here) to use, and I like the fact that you can take any music on your computer and just throw it in. As for the price, I think if you're not in a rush you can find everything cheaper, but knowing I can also use it to tranfer all my old video tape movies onto my computer & later onto a disc makes it worth it to me.

Also, once it's done, you can use the Windows Media Center to view them fairly easily. If anyone gets this and has troubles, I'll try to help out the best I can.

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice info - keep it coming as you use it more.

Twango (now called Ovi) actually has a bit better video quality - or so says Dmiller. ;-p
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks - I just can't believe Youtube takes so friggin' long to process a video... I'm starting to think I did it wrong, but it says it loaded, so I dunno what's up.

The Dazzle is pretty decent, the more I play around with it, the more I like it.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah... Take it from me, YouTube sucks.
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The good thing about HAVA is that you can play and record in HD, whereas the way you are going you cant, and on a HDTV I'm sure you know it looks like utter crap. I have some videos where I recorded the exact way you are doing through the distribution box but I didnt enjoy playing on standard Def on my LCD because it was so crappy coming down from HD, so im thinking about going with the HAVA route for my Football games.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, if you haven't bought anything yet & have the money for the HAVA, definitely get it for exactly the reason oweb2 said. To be honest, after about five minutes, the loss of HD didn't really bug me (I was playing Burnout Paradise).
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what other purpose do these devices have besides recording game video?
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Nice write-up Thornes! I've been playing with the idea of picking up a capture device, so hearing you and Quo discuss each of these products is really helpful.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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MadB - for me, I have like 5 years of family events on VHS tape, so I want to put them onto dvd. This is actually a perfect setup for doing that. Plus, I can also record right off the TV so there's another bonus.

I've also always thought it would be fun to make short gaming videos.

One thing I'm working on is making a video of my son playing baseball and during his birthdays & schooling events, too - then I can edit all of it, put chapters on the dvd, and send them to family. There's a lot of good simple functions for this.
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've had a couple people ask me some questions about recording/playback, so I'm going to post the answers here.



First off, some settings: When you pull up the Studio Launcher, click on 'Setup' located in the upper left. The first thing you see is 'Capture Source...' Click on that. Make sure your video/audio settings are set on Dazzle DVC170 (if you see a camcorder, you're on the wrong setting). If you don't have this option, it's because your Dazzle is not plugged into your PC or laptop. Also make sure your TV Standard is left on NTSC, and your aspect ratio is on 4:3 (if you put it on 16:9, it is going to stretch your video & make it look funny if you upload it to YouTube or whatever). Hitting okay will bring up a screen and (assuming you already have your 360 on, you'll see the game in the upper right corner.

Click on 'Setup' again, and this time, click on 'Capture Format.' I have only had luck uploading a video to YouTube using the 'DivX' preset. If you want to be able to view your finished video in your Windows Media Center, the only way I've been able to do it is making sure I'm set on DivX.

Once you've captured & edited your video, click where it says 'Create File,' and name your video. You should then see your game on the right screen on your laptop/PC. Once you've done this and it's finished loading, you should then be able to view it in your Windows Media Center and upload it to youtube or whatever you use.

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Old 05-23-2008, 12:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Okay, here's a quick example of how the Dazzle Platinum recorded a video. I used YouTube, but I'm going to check for something better, as the quality on my Windows Media Center rocks compared to YouTube's quality. Shrinking the video down to it's smallest available size clears it up somewhat.

The sound is off (you'll see), but I think that's just my sloppy editing. I added in some music & a couple sound effects, and (including playtime) had the entire thing done in mere minutes:

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Try using Blip.TV for your video host. They're so much better.
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey gord I'm gonna sign up and put some of my work on there how would I find your account.
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