Drill our oil petition

[Nolimit4show]

Originally Posted by dmiller68

We have been getting away with cheap gas for years. The rest of the world pays much higher prices. This is payback for being stupid with the cars we drive. This giant anti-tank 8mpg trucks we drive are the dinosaur of the next generation. I personal while it hurts believe that this pain is what we need to change our ways. Bring on $10/gal like in the UK right now.

I think i just threw up in my mouth a little...

I blame the rednecks, With those damn monster trucks. 10 feet a gallon

I think i may need to head out to the middle east a while, last year gas was 1.90 in our money that is about less than a dollar.

[namehater]

Originally Posted by Elite Ronnie

On a very local level some of our local factories are only workn 3 day weeks because money is tight for folks {its a lazy boy factory}.

My company (large aerospace mfg.) has also cut some departments down to 32hr work weeks. Fortunately this hasnt affected my department. Hopefully it never makes its way to me either.

Originally Posted by Wondermonkey

Ahh, um, we're already there man. With house prices falling quicker than when they did during the Great Depression, things don't exactly look good for us.

Not sure how this relates, but my f'n mortage went up $160 a month, and that just pisses me off. If i was victim to the work cut back i would be totally f'd.

back on topic tho, i dont see this 'depression' going away anytime soon. no matter how fast we come up with an 'alternative' fuel. no matter what is happening in the world there will always be need for oil. theres no way around that. what do you think will happen if an 'alternative' fuel comes about and all our cars stop needing oil. ive got a theory of what will happen- everything else will sky rocket in price because the oil companies are going to jack up their prices because they arent selling as much oil. leaving us in the same boat as we are now.

i dont know what the solution is, but i hope it happens fast.

[namehater]

Originally Posted by Nolimit4show

I think i just threw up in my mouth a little...

I blame the rednecks, With those damn monster trucks. 10 feet a gallon

I think i may need to head out to the middle east a while, last year gas was 1.90 in our money that is about less than a dollar.

ya know, the rednecks may use a lot of gas in their mud runners and 4x4s, but i bet your or I use more gasoline then they do. think of all the miles we drive in our big fancy cities. now compare that to their little trips into mayberry.

[Elite Ronnie]

Originally Posted by dmiller68

We have been getting away with cheap gas for years. The rest of the world pays much higher prices. This is payback for being stupid with the cars we drive. This giant anti-tank 8mpg trucks we drive are the dinosaur of the next generation. I personal while it hurts believe that this pain is what we need to change our ways. Bring on $10/gal like in the UK right now.

I think the reason the UK pays $10 is probably because of there socialist health care system. I dont see why they would have to pay over twice the price we pay for a barrel of oil when there closer to the source. I figure they tax gas heavy to pay for that baby! My problem is I have to have my big truck. As do house contractors and pretty much anyone that has to haul stuff or pull a trailer. Lets face it a hybrid car isnt gonna pull a few thousand pounds. So im screwed , ha ha.

[dmiller68]

Originally Posted by Elite Ronnie

I think the reason the UK pays $10 is probably because of there socialist health care system. I dont see why they would have to pay over twice the price we pay for a barrel of oil when there closer to the source. I figure they tax gas heavy to pay for that baby! My problem is I have to have my big truck. As do house contractors and pretty much anyone that has to haul stuff or pull a trailer. Lets face it a hybrid car isnt gonna pull a few thousand pounds. So im screwed , ha ha.

That's a legitimate reason to own one and I would assume you will start passing a gas surcharge on to the customer. I understand it but the person that drives her QX56 should be shot as shes uses it to take her kids to school and run around town. Destroying more of the natural environment to feed this obsession with giant cars I don't feel helps anything.

[Thornes70]

Hey, here's an idea - why don't we start using technology that's already available and actually come up with alternative sources of fuel.

Don't worry - that's all I'm gonna contribute to this thread.

[ZoomZoom71]

Originally Posted by Thornes70

Don't worry - that's all I'm gonna contribute to this thread.

Yeah, we don't need ya copyin' and a pastin' on us.

[Thornes70]

I lied - Zoom, I know you're afraid of knowledge, but you're still a palooka.

Ok, now I'm done.

[blah98]

Originally Posted by Wondermonkey

Ahh, um, we're already there man. With house prices falling quicker than when they did during the Great Depression, things don't exactly look good for us.

Not so fast… Depression is not a term to be written lightly in the context of an economic history and is reserved for those oh so special occasions of trade and industry shutdowns. While the line is not firmly drawn between depression and the lighter softer recessionary periods a noticeable shift in the choice of language has occurred as the U.S moved along with 0.9 percent in real GDP growth last quarter above the projected amount for the time space (0.6) with total rebound projected as early as 2010.

For those gasoline consumers rejoice or cower as its mortality although apparent since its inception is unlikely to occur in the lifetime of anyone able to read this whether its refinements to the Fischer-Tropsch, Bergius, or the Karrick processes, the advancements of thermal depolymerization or those thermo-chemical conversion applications already commercially undertaken field testing deployment like Royal Dutch Shells hydrothermal upgrading processing facility in the Netherlands, or the progress in drilling and processing equipment that allowed the discovery, view, and contemplation of the largest reserves outside the Arabian peninsula. (Alberta Tar Pits) Petitions, deregulation, or blah. Just play nice with the Canadians in the mean time.

[ZoomZoom71]

Originally Posted by Thornes70

I lied - Zoom, I know you're afraid of knowledge, but you're still a palooka.

Yes, I had to look up the definition of that one. That's too bad.

[Wondermonkey]

Originally Posted by blah98

Not so fast… Depression is not a term to be written lightly in the context of an economic history

I didn't say we were in a depression, I said that our (current) home prices are falling quicker than during the (past) Great Depression.

AS HOUSE prices in America continue their rapid descent, market-watchers are having to cast back ever further for gloomy comparisons. The latest S&P/Case-Shiller national house-price index, published this week, showed a slump of 14.1% in the year to the first quarter, the worst since the index began 20 years ago. Now Robert Shiller, an economist at Yale University and co-inventor of the index, has compiled a version that stretches back over a century. This shows that the latest fall in nominal prices is already much bigger than the 10.5% drop in 1932, the worst point of the Depression. And things are even worse than they look. In the deflationary 1930s house prices declined less in real terms. Today inflation is running at a brisk pace, so property prices have fallen by a staggering 18% in real terms over the past year.

I'll say it again though, this is the starting point and things don't look good for us, either way.

[BrewCityUpstart]

With record profits, it's only gonna get higher. It has nothing to do with our SUVs, or 'anti-tanks' as Dave put it. It's all a sham. What are we gonna do, not buy gas? Bwahahaha! They'll keep raisin it, and we'll keep buying it.

Bring on hydrogen!