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Old 02-27-2007, 07:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Buyers Gambled, Lost on PlayStation Resales

Damien Bevando planned on plush profits after buying the coveted Sony PlayStation 3 video game consoles during the system's much-hyped launch last fall. He thought he would more than double his money selling them online.

"I want to give my wife and three kids a really good Christmas," Bevando said outside the Best Buy store in Bend on Nov. 15, two days before the launch of the PS3. He added that each $600 unit could fetch as much as $2,000 on online auction sites.

But it didn't pan out.

"I lost money on that deal," he said of the four PS3s he bought. "I definitely wouldn't have bought them. The whole thing was just a nightmare."

Bevando said auction prices of PS3s quickly fell from the $2,000 range to less than $1,000 within days, hardly worth the hassle and costs.

Many sellers held out, hoping that the holiday season would see a rise in demand, Bevando said. But that didn't happen, and many of the consoles were fetching less than $100 over the retail price, while some prices were below retail.

The resale flop was common elsewhere as buyers lined up, sometimes for up to four days before launch, in hopes of big resale profits.

Charlynn Snoke, a Bend stay-at-home mom, camped for two nights outside Best Buy with five relatives to buy PS3s.

Online prices were so poor that Snoke returned five of the six they bought for a full refund, keeping one for themselves.

"We thought that, as time went on, that people (would) bump up our prices," she said.

But other people had the same idea, and a rush of resellers quickly saturated the online auction market.

Of the 20 people lined up outside Best Buy on Nov. 15, only three told The Bulletin newspaper they planned to keep their purchases. The rest hoped to resell at a profit.

The fact that the console is readily available in Central Oregon hasn't helped.

In comparison, Nintendo's Wii console - a major competitor launched two days after the PS3 - remains hard to get.

"The Wii has definitely been more popular," said Debra Walls, manager of the electronics department at Wal-Mart's Bend store.

Industry records show Wii's North American sales in the last two months of 2006 at 1.8 million against about 750,000 PS3s.

Michael Pachter, research analyst with Wedbush Morgan Securities, said that the PlayStation's price has kept it more available.

"It's $600," Pachter said. "It's not an impulse buy. You're not just going to march into a store and pick one up because your kid wants one. With the Wii, it's $250 with a game included."

For resellers like Bevando, the PlayStation 3 remains a painful lesson in business basics: supply and demand.

"Everyone in line was saying that it was going to sell for a lot of money," he said. "And what happened was they waited in line essentially to lose money. I think a lot of people got stuck with them because they couldn't sell them."

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Old 02-27-2007, 07:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe this will keep future launchs to resonable levels and people won't be selling for profit.
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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unfortunately it is not going to curve the situation. I think many people are going to look at it as people got the wrong system.

It may have worked better if there wasn't the Wii alternative. I don't recall, but nothing was launched around the PS2. The Dreamcast was a good six months before. The GameCube and Xbox were about a year later. So it was the only new "toy" on the market.

What is funny with the situation is that apparently there was more people who wanted the unit to resale than maybe those who wanted to play it; I'm sure there were enough who wanted to play it, just not enough to with the money or money and willingness. I know one of my friends who use to get systems on launch days will not anymore because of all the hassels, time, and lack of qaulity games at launch, and, thanks to the 360, build quality.
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well... I am sort of glad that a few of the resellers were burned.
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Old 02-28-2007, 03:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think a lot of people got stuck with them because they couldn't sell them."
What? Did they lose the reciept?? It's nigh impossible to lose money on a PS3.


Gordon, why would you say something that stupid? Being happy for someone getting burned for doing something completely legal and legit kinda makes you look like a jag.
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Old 02-28-2007, 03:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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legal and legit, yes. Greedy--hell yes!
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Of course it is legal and all, but I can still be happy for their follies. There were plenty of fans that wanted the console for themselves, or their children, that unable to buy it at regular price on opening day. They then turned away from the system since they saw some of the prices on eBay and said, "Screw it". Of course this ended up being a fairly good thing for the people that did not get the console since the system still lacks a great title.

More so it could be attributed to the people that started fights outside of the buildings while waiting for this system. The stigma that was placed on people that wanted to get the system. The group of assholes that many people turned into because they were hunting for a profit, and not a gaming experience. That is something that I can be glad about.

Now people lost money on the systems because they were selling them on eBay. It would mean that the auction would be over and so they were locked into a contract to sell. This includes if they did not put a reserve on the item, which would have had them sell it below their purchase price. Think of all the packages that included games or extra controllers that did not reach full value.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Im glad the resellers got burned also! Greedy bastards deserved it. That one guy bought six systems. These things are not meant to be bought and resold. All they did was create a false "demand" for the PS3 that may have only existed in thier greedy little minds.

Im all for the free market. Sometime you win, sometimes you lose. It must really suck for those people who waited in the cold for 48 hours to only break-even or even lose money after ebay fees and such. HA HA!
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It would have been nice if there were consoles available at launch for people who actually wanted them to play them. So if this lesson results in this being a possible reality in the future, I'm all for it.
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I Ebayed 4 systems and made enough profit to cover a system and a game- I otherwise would not have been able to afford one. I guess that makes me greedy.
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ahh, by your position I figured that you had done the eBay thing. It technically does make you greedy since you were trying to get something hefty out of the deal. If you were doing it for friends and they gave you like $20.00 it would be cool, assuming they just wanted to keep the system. But buying four systems to sell on eBay is what gives a lot of gamers the greedy image in the media that views it from the outside in. The whole mess caused fights, bloodshed, and robberies. You cannot really blame Sony for that aspect since all they did was release the system. You can blame the people that were buying it, and with that many consoles I am sure that you caused a child or two to cry on Christmas day because their parents were unable to buy them the system... Until they found out that they got a Wii.
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I am sure that you caused a child or two to cry on Christmas day because their parents were unable to buy them the system... Until they found out that they got a Wii.
Brew's the ANTI-Claus! Thats alittle harsh Gordon