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Old 11-16-2006, 12:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sony Losing Big Money on PS3 Hardware

Sony Losing Big Money on PS3 Hardware
James Niccolai, IDG News Service
Thu Nov 16, 9:00 AM ET

Sony is taking a big loss on each PlayStation 3 console it sells but end users are benefitting from "supercomputing performance" at the price of a cheap PC, according to research company iSuppli, which dismantled the console to analyze the parts inside.


Console makers often sell their hardware at a loss with the hope of profiting from the games that run on them. But Sony's loss on each PlayStation 3 will be unusually deep, according to iSuppli estimates released today.

Loss per Unit Is 'Remarkable'

The combined materials and manufacturing costs for each device come to about $806 for the model with a 20GB hard drive, excluding the cost of the controller, cables, and packaging, iSuppli said.


With a suggested retail price of $499, that would mean Sony is taking a loss of about $307 on each console it sells. The differential for the 60GB model is less, with the cost exceeding the price tag by $241.


By comparison, the materials and manufacturing costs for the hard-drive version of Microsoft's rival device, the Xbox 360 are $323, iSuppli estimated. That's less than the suggested retail price of $399.


"It's common for video-game console makers to lose money on hardware, and make up for the loss via video game-title sales. Still, the size of Sony's loss per unit is remarkable, even for the video-game console business," iSuppli said.

PlayStation 3 an 'Engineering Masterpiece'

Most of the cost comes from the PlayStation 3 console's processing power. The multicore Cell processor alone, which was co-designed by Sony, Toshiba, and IBM, and is the gaming device's main processing engine, accounts for about 10 percent of the cost of each machine, iSuppli said.


The research company also highlighted Sony's use of dual graphics chips from Nvidia Corp. and Toshiba, and its use of four 512-megabit DRAM chips from Samsung Electronics. Sony's motherboard probably costs the company $500 in total, compared to $204 for the Xbox 360, iSuppli said.


This is all good news for customers, who get all that computing power for a relative bargain. iSuppli called the PlayStation 3 an "engineering masterpiece," with a motherboard that looks more like that of an enterprise server or network switch than a games console.


The console provides "more processing power and capability than any consumer electronics device in history," iSuppli said.


The PlayStation3 made its debut in Japan on Saturday and is being rolled out worldwide this week and next.

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Old 11-16-2006, 12:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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good find. That is a huge loss!
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well seeing as 95% of the units they sell will be the 600.00 model, its not all that bad. The problem is that because it costs so much to purchase initially, gamers will only be able to come home with a single game, maybe 2. Thats not good if they expect software profits to offset hardware losses.
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yeah. Judging by their past record though, Software and accessory sales will not be a problem.
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think Sony is willing to take the initial loss. Every time they have released new hardware, they have been in the same situation. Over time, when manufacturing costs become a bit lower along with the profitability of software in general, Sony is hoping to recoup that loss. I hope for their sake, they are able to pull it off. I know their shareholders (me being one of them) are not overly happy.
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Not everytime Moose. I think the PSP is tanking.
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Moose, Sony wasnt financially hurting(and boy are they hurting) when they launched past consoles, and yes the PSP is a joke. With every month, the DS just walks all over it more and more, its embarassing, much like Microsofts attempts in japan

Also, Sony had huge exclusives to ease the pain. Most of those are now cross platform or have lost their fanbase over time.

If you'd like handheld sales comparisons, I can get the numbers for the past half year or so, let me know.

They've never been in this situation. They should recover but its going to take years. And even when they do and have a minute to take a breath, they will have to face the facts that they lost a lot of marketshare to MS and Nintendo during that recovery. They can thank their evil bluray drive for that

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Same thing happens with XBox. Hell, same thing happens with cell phones.
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