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Old 06-23-2008, 09:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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One of the main reasons why I loved No Country, aside from Javier, was the ending. Plus, the voice over at the end ties everything up pretty neat I think, but I can see how some people could find it left too open for their tastes.

Best movie I've seen in a while, front to back though.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I guess those close to the industry are too sophisticated and deep for us simple-minded Americans. Guess I'll go back to clinging...
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Old 06-24-2008, 04:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So really, what was it that you guys didn't like about the ending? Was it that it didn't tie everything up into a nice little package?

Don't reference Jon like that.


The best way I can explain the ending is that its like having 'alone time' and stopping before you're finished. Thats just dumb!
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Damn, people get really touchy when I call the general American audience stupid. I wasn't referring to any of you really, just stating a pretty well known fact. The typical American doesn't like it when things just end with no real resolution, and you can pretty much thank the Italians for that as they were one of the first to end a movie that way back in the 1920's and 1930's.

The fact is, some people look at movies as entertainment, some people look at movies as an art, and some people look at movies as a mix of art and entertainment. I tend to lean towards the art and entertainment side, with art being first. And really, you can't say film isn't an art. If you say that, neither is music, painting, photography or anything else for that matter.

But like I said, audiences are stupid. They can spot shoddy CGI work (and awesome CGI/special effects work) a mile away but can't recognize a well written story if it bit them in the ass. This is what I like to refer to as the Michael Bay syndrome. Insane special effects? Check. Hot actress? Check. Deep and thoughtful story with excellent plot development? Uh, isn't that special effects?

And for the record, I'm a Michael Bay fan. The guy is second to none in directing action movies,

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Old 06-24-2008, 02:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I wonder if most audience members in the US even know how many special endings they get here in the states that weren't the actual intended end of the movie, and one that was only shown here and not overseas. Almost always it's a shittier ending that they tacked on here because we can't hang with the intended ending.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This reminds me of The Mist. I watched a conversation between Frank Dubont and Stephen King the night before last... they had a hell of a time getting their movie through without having to change the ending.

"My favorite part was when they flipped Paris Hilton over and did her in the butt." -WoodGhost


Maybe atypical endies are starting to catch on again around here. I know I like them, although I do enjoy happy endings a lot of times as well.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I was trying to figure out some of the more recent movies that have had their endings changed for US audiences. Recently, I can only think of:

28 Days Later
The Descent
Pride & Prejudice

Others? I think generally people are don't want an ending that leaves them feeling hopeless. I can see where No Country could easily do that, but I think it comes down to going into a movie knowing who the directors are. I don't know that I would ever expect a neat package with the Coen Brothers. That's just me though.
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Old 06-24-2008, 05:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm against happy-endings. I'm sick of directors(or studios I should say) babying the viewer. I want main characters to die, I want the bad guys to win, I want to feel a general loss of faith in mankind. Because the good guys never win in real life, and no one ever experiences a happy ending in real life.

I'll respect anyone who's willing to leave the end of a film up to interpretation. I gained a lot of respect for the Coens after NCFOM.
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Old 06-24-2008, 05:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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And for the record, I'm a Michael Bay fan. The guy is second to none in directing action movies,

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Really? I can think of at least four directors, two that haven't done anything in years that make Michael Bay look like the tool he is. James Cameron,, Richard Donner, John McTiernan and I would give Martin Campbell a pass for making two of the best Bond films within the last 20 years. But hey, you can have your Armmageddon(puke) and Transformers (cringe)

Aside from that I have always loved the Cohen Bros, they are great story tellers, but I know what I am getting into when I see one of their films, I would think that like most things, everything comes down to personal preference. People like what they like, nothing wrong with that. Unless they are wrong of course.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:38 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I just need some kind of ending. I mean if the movie stopped @ 1hour and 30 mins in It would have had the same effect on me as the actual end did which was "where is the rest of the movie"? Call me old timy but every story needs a begining and a end. The only time a movie should end like that is if its a mini series {like lonesome dove the greatest charactor driven movie ever} and its gonna end another night.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yeah, I don't think any of us didn't "get it" We just didn't like it.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yeah, I didn't say I didn't like the ending, just that it would have been better with the last two scenes switched, with the assassin limping away as the sirens approached. No nice tidy package there either. If you have the ability to program your player to view those scenes in the order I suggested, try it and let me know what you think.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yeah, I don't think any of us didn't "get it" We just didn't like it.
You're obviously not as cultured as the rest of us /snob
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Old 06-27-2008, 03:45 PM   #34 (permalink)
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