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Old 06-17-2008, 08:49 AM   #127 (permalink)
Thornes70
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That's funny, because I see all those things interconnected: the main "pro-ANWR" argument is usually about there needing to be more resources for drilling, yet there is already an insane amount of area oil companies have that they are not drilling. Also, the price of gas is another argument for drilling in ANWR, so the rest is just as relevant. As for blame, it goes in all directions, not just on one side or the other.

As for your second point, the problem isn't so much about sources taking one side or the other being biased, it's that with the several government and scientific analysis that is out there, it's a pointless quest to open ANWR; if they go in there, and after 20 years we're saving roughly a penny per gallon - it does nothing... And that would be irreversible for the area, basically destroying it. Then what precedent does that set? Oil companies already have tons of leases on BLM land to drill - do we start allowing them to go into all our America's parks and wildlife refuges to drill? Where does it stop? Despite the hippie-eco-freak talking point of saving some bug or squirrel or whatever, the bigger issue about ANWR is maintaining a line in the sand to not set the ball rolling to give up more refuges and environmental zones for the sake of a few drops of oil, dig? At least that's the way I see it.

As for hypocrisy... I'll agree with you about Dem/Rep spin, and I'm not saying my sources are better or anything... I'm saying that I've offered very relevant, factual information that can be verified by a number of different areas (and which have even been provided in most cases) for all to view and make up their own mind; maybe I was a bit pissy (hey give me a break - it's early ). Nobody likes being patronized, and I'm not trying to do that; however when sarcasm adds nothing to someone's side of the debate and only seems to be there as an eye-rolling remark to basically say my information or opinion is crap, I'm going to call that out.

My posting the videos about Cuba/China was actually to prove the point about the lying, and to further my point about the truths. It's one thing to post a link to an internet article, but it's another thing to actually see it happen. Plus, someone had brought it up earlier - either in this thread or one of the others, so I thought it was relevant.

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As far as the drilling thing goes in general, oil companies drill when it's profitable for them, so there's more to why they aren't drilling if they have all the necessary permits and permissions. Bottom line... right now, there's no fuel shortage. There's too much speculation in the market. We're able to get oil, and we're evidently willing to pay out the nose for it. Which means that if American oil companies had access to more American oil right now, guess what they'd be charging for it? ...Just slightly less than the Saudis, Canadians and everyone else are charging for it, that's what.

The answer isn't in oil. It's in reducing speculation and diversifying demand. But Congress was too busy having hearings on freaking baseball to notice when all this was heating up...
I agree 100%
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