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Old 06-17-2008, 08:22 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Excess vergage? What do you mean by that, Quo? I don't know if you're familiar with Rhodes, but she does a hell of a lot of research on her topics, and when it's posted up about her shows, she insists you do your own research (which I did quite a bit of).
Only that the article made one point, while the verbage posted went in a totally different direction. The article pointed to a specific set of acts by two congressmen (Gramm and DeLay) and Clinton. It was a bi-partisan smorgasborg of blame. On the other hand, the verbage from whatever the other stuff was was pulled from an obviously partisan source looking to prove one side was doing more than the other (and the right way). The two just didn't go together. There's nothing wrong with posting either, I just didn't get how they fit together.

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as for the endless debate over ANWR, when you consider the amount of available drilling acreage that oil companies have at their disposal NOW, it sure as heck makes you wonder why they ARE NOT putting any of them permits to use but this ANWR b.s. is being pushed as our last remaining vestige of hope.
My advice: if any media source is pushing ANWR as a last vestige of anything -- be it as a supply of oil or wildlife conservation -- you should ignore that source as legitimate, because it's neither. It's a talking point, and that's it. Don't buy into the hype. It's not worth it. Having read what I've read about ANWR, it's clear that it won't help that much, and it won't hurt that much either.

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MadB, I take it that the only way you would ever believe anything is if some republican came up & told you it was so, huh? I find it funny people will take the word of a right-wing radio host as gospel (even though they are consistently proven to be misrepresenting the facts or outright lying), while anyone on the left is immediately dismissed, despite having a ton of proof to hold up infront of you... Your loss.
Careful here. Hypocrisy is an ugly thing... Everyone has one or more media outlets that they get their primary news from. Dem news sources spin just as much as republican sources. Dem followers are just as likely to take Al Gore's word as gospel as Republicans are to take Rush Limbaugh's.

The "China is drilling off the coast of Cuba" thing doesn't have legs. It'll blow by, because it's clearly ridiculous. As far as the drilling thing goes in general, oil companies drill when it's profitable for them, so there's more to why they aren't drilling if they have all the necessary permits and permissions. Bottom line... right now, there's no fuel shortage. There's too much speculation in the market. We're able to get oil, and we're evidently willing to pay out the nose for it. Which means that if American oil companies had access to more American oil right now, guess what they'd be charging for it? ...Just slightly less than the Saudis, Canadians and everyone else are charging for it, that's what.

The answer isn't in oil. It's in reducing speculation and diversifying demand. But Congress was too busy having hearings on freaking baseball to notice when all this was heating up...
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